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Subject:  May as well try again since I'm unintelligent

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Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

If me, Albert Einstein, and Steven Hawking where sitting together, the average IQ in the room would be 4. I'm still trying to find an 1885 or 2365 lol. Don't think my mom would be too happy if I spent $800 on either of these seeds, so may as well try again with what I have now. Won't be posting a new message on seed exchange for a while after this.
The new and final offer is:
one of the 2350 Gienger
one of the 2068 Skinner (only 50 seeds, low seed count)
two of the 2262 Stelts
two of the 2164 Stelts
two of the 2128 Leblanc
one of the 2342 Stelts
two of the 2243 Stelts
one of the 2517 Haist
one of the 2002 Andrusz
two of the 1905 Sadiq
four of the 1671 Skinner
four of the 1642 Skinner
one of the 1343 Andrusz
one of the DMG 1535 Andrusz
two of the 1586.5 Gunstrom
one of the 1935 Jutras SQ
two of the 1838 Jutras SQ
one of the 2118 Jutras SQ
two of the 1371 MacDonald SQ
one of the 1384 Jutras SQ
one of the 1701 Jutras SQ
one of the 927 Jutras SQ
one of the 819 Rodebaugh SQ
and finally... four of the 470 Connoly BG
That list is looking pretty thicc and chonky.
If you don't like the squash, I've got more pumpkins I could put in place of them. Also looking for/interested in... 2405 Guns, 2907 Paton, 2656 Paton, 2424 Caspers, 2702 Cutrupi, 1707 Caspers, 2493 Wolf, 2537 Crews, 1109 Jutras SQ, 2006 Wolf, 2183 Mendi, 1911 Urena, 1940 Urena, and 2554 Andrusz. And yes, I do intend to plant any I get.

2/23/2023 10:05:01 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

We hit 700 lbs on an old 16XX Holland seed last year. In the big picture of things, it might be good to just to give the ones you've got a chance. Curious whats the upside to trading away all those seeds to get the top two seeds.

2/24/2023 12:11:15 AM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

I'll be taking offers until 12 pm tomorrow

2/24/2023 6:05:17 PM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

jonah...you seem bored...if you add up all the last auction prices for all the seeds you listed vs the last auction price of the seeds you seek...is it a plus or minus. As a grower...if they plant one of the seeds that you want...what are their odds of recovering the investment cost in a weighoff win. Most growers can only do a few plants. If you are going to trade...how about making it a win-win situation.

Forgive me...may I ask your age? It seems every year we have a young grower posting similiar trade offers.

2/24/2023 10:39:47 PM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

I always like the durham-raleigh area. It has been 20 years since I have been close to there. I think that to grow the biggest you can...don't concentrate on the seeds. Your environment is a bigger factor. Start time for the seeds should be way earlier than the northern growers. Shade cloth would be a great investment...much more important that greenhouse. As I remember, humidity is not as much of an issue as other places in the south...so disease pressure should be reduced. If you can solve the nuances of your location...you won't have to baseball card trade seeds....you can trade them direct with the growers of the seeds you desire.

2/24/2023 10:45:43 PM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

I did get quite bored lol (I'm 13 by the way). The only reason I'm really doing this is because my little brother made a bet with me that I could not get the best pumpkin seeds, and I would like to prove him wrong lol.

2/25/2023 8:58:28 AM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

I can't grow all these seeds, so after today I may sell a few.

2/25/2023 8:59:28 AM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

Is there a time deadline on the bet? I will make a bet with you also. The bet I am offering is: There will be at least one of the seeds that you desire still in existence and not germinated when you reach the point of having solved the riddles of your growing environment. Of course...each year that you take in solving the riddle...makes it harder to germinate that seed.



2/25/2023 9:17:07 AM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

No deadline, but I'll try again next year.

2/25/2023 9:30:40 AM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

did your brother define "best seed"? I am wondering if lot 41 of tonights Michigans auction is it.

LOT #41
1446 Eaton ’04 (842 Eaton x 1301.5 Eaton) World Record 19 years ago, Stored in the freezer

it is a world record seed.....

2/25/2023 10:05:23 AM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

What I think he meant by "best seed" is the most expensive one around, that's how he classifies "best" lol

2/25/2023 10:14:06 AM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

2068 Skinner vs 2147 Marshall which is best?
1885x2183 or 2183x2365

I remember when the 2145.5 was free to all. Does that make it the worst?

Good luck and happy growing Jonah
Try some test germinations if you get too bored..maybe not the 2068 though

2/25/2023 11:08:39 AM

Nebras-kinGrower

Scottsbluff, Nebraska

I remember the 2145 went for over $1000 a few years ago. The 2365 and 1885 both come from the 2145. As well as many other great seeds out there now. You may already have the next "best" seed in your collection. Those Stelts seeds should be very good.

If you are bored, have you heard of the site:
tools.pumpkinfanatic.com? You can see all the family trees for any pumpkin seed.

2/25/2023 12:00:25 PM

jay958

Ontario

i have a 2537 crews

2/25/2023 12:19:15 PM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

@jay958 would you be willing to trade 2537 for my 2517?

2/25/2023 12:50:03 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

'400 is awfully cheap for a 2365 lol'
That was clever, and lucky you, lol---
Now you've got all that mulah to do whatever advice these guys
tell you you should. It's been interesting.
PS - Stand strong against peer pressure of any kind -
YOU are in control of any and all things. eg

2/25/2023 11:16:41 PM

jay958

Ontario

2517?

2/26/2023 8:44:27 PM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

2517 or 2517 rounded down?

I watched also pumpkinpal2..if you were to abbreviate your bp identity..what would you choose pp2?

2/26/2023 8:52:16 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

Yeah, 'cause it'd make anyone laff including myself, lol---see?
Ha Ha
'Gee, that's funny...I haven't laughed at anything yet today...'

Mind if I ask - what is bnot? not b? Oh, whatta day---eg

2/26/2023 10:53:02 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

Hey, Jonah if you want some seeds to experiment with I can send you some instead of possibly wasting (or not) those super seeds like the 927 Jutras.
I mean I'd be shelling out like 40-50 bucks if that were in a Lot and I had not others' others from years past already.

*Disregard if you have it set in stone and this is NOT an attempt to get my seeds 'out there' this time, lol. No need to even answer if not interested and good luck otherwise---eg
PS---I love ketchup SO much, I'd be Happy with that meal!

2/26/2023 11:10:57 PM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

thanks for heads up on the 927 p. Maybe I should look into that one. Someday might have to try to grow an alternative to the clone-holub cross.

bnot means....lazy typer.p is so much quicker.

I don't think that is what it meant originally, but after all these years, my memory gets a big vague in places.

Where can I buy one them $1 hothouses? Looks like you are solving the board issue Jonah.

2/27/2023 9:15:57 AM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

O,
O
K.
yeah, you can just zero in on that one letter and
yer done, lol---eg

2/27/2023 6:34:25 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

Ps... I know stubborn doesnt mean "unintelligent"... often quite the opposite.

2/27/2023 7:26:20 PM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

bnot, You can build one of those hothouses by taking some tin foil to make supports and then tape those into place, and what I did was I cut up some large plastic bags, and taped them together to make a cover. I used a large paper bag a little like the ones from trader joes, and folded it flat. I put some tin foil at the bottom to add a sort of heating mat, but for cheaper. The convenient thing about tin is that since it is metal it will hear up, sort of like a normal heating mat works. I also put the straws in there so I can put water in without having to inject it. Of course, it won't work better than the ones you get at the garden centers, but I find that it works well enough for me (of course when I'm starting my more expensive seeds I will probably buy an actual hothouse of some sort). Good luck this year bnot :)

2/27/2023 7:46:41 PM

jay958

Ontario

how about an 2554 Andrusz?

2/27/2023 8:20:04 PM

bnot

Oak Grove, Mn

see it works eg. I thought you would appreciate my shortcut....after all you are the one that suggested watching utube videos at highest speed.

Sounds complicated jonah. I like the straw water injection. I am wondering..does your starting system take care of the condensation "issue". My commercial one has the habit of collecting condensation on the clear plastic. I havent decided if that is a good thing or bad thing. Is it blocking the light or refracting the light?

2/27/2023 9:00:12 PM

Jonah R

Chapel Hill, NC

Don't think it's bad, but to combat that I made the two ends of the hothouse paper towel instead of plastic so that moisture can escape, but heat will still stay in

2/27/2023 9:40:02 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

I don't think there'll be much of any condensation with
practically no heat being applied to this; On that topic, if one were to make provision(s) for any condensation to COLLECT enough and have a point from which to drop off from, that'd be beneficial but only to the extent of having the moisture be in a constant cycle, which is good. Don't forget that water has surface tension that must be exceeded in order for it to flow in very small quantities. Watch a windshield from inside a car during a soft rain for an example.
Droplets FORM and then slide/flow down the windshield.

I do not think the 'overhead watering' straws will work due to their 'cumbersomeness' and the amount of H2O in the seed-starting mix (I hope that's what is used) should be sufficient for the duration of any seeds that do sprout.

As far as warming the seeds' environment if it gets too cold, it'd take a lot more breath and hyperventilating therefore to warm them up than is humanly possible.
I am surprised daily at what gets warm and what doesn't in my own living room random sproutings, lol.

2/27/2023 10:50:11 PM

pumpkinpal2

Syracuse, NY

I do like the semi-clear plastic cups (super-clear are better, though) and if you have a heat vent or a heater fan that is ALREADY IN USE, putting these babies in front of either, a foot + away and staggered to allow continued air flow, would be just as productive, even without covers.

Back to condensation: Whenever I've put a Saran Wrap cover on any seed terrarium, I've dimpled the center of the cover substantially in the center to enable the condensation to have that point of accumulation to allow the H2O to drip back down from - the alternative is that the condensation will accumulate on the cover and go nowhere and the seeds will potentially dry out.
Go figure. A micro desert. Well, good luck and without experimentation, we do not progress!
Later---eric g
PS - you could go to 'Seed Starting' and see years of crazy sprouting experiments,
including many of my own, lol---eg
Ha Ha - My timer just went off to remind me of the next step in my own seed adventure.

2/27/2023 10:53:12 PM

pg3

Lodi, California

You got 2 spots and 800sf

2/28/2023 12:17:58 AM

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